Le soutien inconditionnel d’Obama à israel – Ginette Skandrani Yishai no-show at national disaster conference
Noam Chomsky Interviewed by Frank Barat, on Israel/Palestine (4/4)
Filmed by Frank Barat at the MIT, Cambridge, USA on 2 September 2010. “Gaza in Crisis” Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe and Frank Barat’s new book will be out Nov. 2010 in US and UK.
He is a traitor and I can’t believe I ever trusted him. He is a disgusting person who lies and uses his influence to hurt Palestinians and sow divisions among activists, because he is a closet Zionist. This is obvious if you read his work closely. I hope people in the movement turn their backs on him. We don’t need people like him influencing us or telling us that “Palestinians should just give up and be realistic because of international concensus
J Glatzer courageously telling the truth.
@dubified89
did you check the interview with giraldi out ?
@dubified89
blame them both, the us is far from innocent and israel is a full of willing executioners. For a more critical, nuanced analysis from someone who has been there check out phil giradli’s latest interview on antiwar DOT com
video of Adam ‘Gadahn’ as well, i.m.o. clearly a phony
Part of the reason I say this is that this Sheurer guy went on Bill Maher and on the same show that he said the shit about Israel, claimed that the most recent Osama Bin Laden video which was clearly fake was legitimate, even when Maher himself who usually attacks ‘conspiracy theorists’ was skeptical about it’s authenticity. Sheurer claimed that Bin Laden has been dying his hair.
Of course Chomsky probably claims all that is real too. I don’t know, he never talks about it. But go check out a
Of course Israel is a wicked colonialist state with huge influence over the U.S. government, but I don’t see how the CIA is any better
@Cefuroxx Do you think some of these guys might be passing the buck though? “Oh it’s not our fault, the CIA is good. Blame Israel entirely”
@pazomblez
he’s against the tactics that tutu and mandela used and have endorsed with regards to israel
@Cefuroxx
he never said he knew more about it…lol
@mistermoen
chonmsky channels a 20th century afrikaaner and claims, as a white jewish zionist, to speak about defeating apartheid from his humble abode in boston. The fact that he thinks he knows more about this than tutu or mandela is unfathomable
Dang, Chomksy is a good guy. Even when this dude is pissing him off, he stays as cool, reasonable, and personable as possible.
@Parazitas999 (con’t) The corporate media is criminal in so many ways, but if I believed in hell I’d have to believe that the owners and the “journalists” would someday find themselves there. Why? Because they fill America’s heads w/so much frivolous nonsense. Altho’ my faith in my fellow Americans ain’t what it used to be, I do believe that if they were shown what was really going on in Palestine (& elsewhere, for that matter), the majority would be appalled & firmly against it.
@Parazitas999 Yes, US citizens absolutely need to be educated about Palestine. I can speak for myself. I have been a media dropout for decades, so my ignorance was “self-inflicted.” I happened to read a very moving book by a Palestinian woman; this propelled me to educate myself.
The camera should have been on the interviewer so that we’d know what an idiot looks like.
If Americans ever fully understand just how much of their suffering and the suffering we have inflicted on others is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. – Alan Sabrosky, fmr Director of Studies, Army War College
@mdoob11
sayan mdoob11, why must you insist upon repeating the same tired garbage in the face of cia and state department statements to the contrary? Do you think you are fooling anyone?
@WastedTourist
he is incredibly dishonest when it comes to IP
@Cefuroxx Pay attention. Israel was initially supported because, among other services, it stifled Arab nationalism permitting American oil firms to access the region unabashedly. In other words, the most significant impediment to a successful economic foreign policy was dismantled by Israel. Simultaneously, the US provides patronage to SA, which hasn’t infringed on this economic framework whatsoever; quite the contrary in fact, as SA has the same economic interests. No contradiction there, sonny
@mdoob11 Yes. The thing is, he isn’t a super skilled rhetorician or a loud, abrasive speaker and bully. He’s just extremely intellectually honest, always cites the facts and evidence and always strives be always logically consistent in his arguments. Once you have that, you’ll be irrefutable.
@decidererer
whats your opinion on the role of t he lobby in this?
“Lyndon Johnson most certainly did abhor Nasser and was not sorry to see him and his pan-Arab ambitions defeated, but there is absolutely no evidence that the Johnson administration ever seriously planned to unseat Nasser, formulated any other action plan against Egypt, or pushed Israel in any way to attack” Bill C again
LBJ was getting serviced by the wife of a former irgun operative in the WH during the land grab/war which goes a long way to explaining why the USS liberty wasnt investigated
@mdoob11
so let me get this straight….
The US pays for Israel’s weapons in order to have the Saudis get armed in order to create friction in the region so that the oil companies will have access to crude in a stable environment? This doesn’t rise to the level of a joke
@Cefuroxx Moreover, as the US funnels money to Israel, about 3/4 is reinvested in American arms firms, and this has an extra benefit, it forces the whole region to invest heavily in American arms as to not fall behind. Two major, straightfoward reasons, as to why Israel is supported by the US out of self-interest, and here you are repeating vacuous platitudes.
@Cefuroxx That’s totally moronic. There are many reasons to support Israel. Why would you repeat something after i demonstrated it’s not true? Squashing Arab nationalism was a primary concern, hence the overwhelming support since 67′, coinciding with Israel’s war with Nasser of Egypt. This facilitated American access to key oil markets; control of oil was considered to be “veto power” over industrial rivals, like Japan (George Kennan’s insight, State Department).
@Cefuroxx i will not link you. They took place on July 26. You can find it in Chomsky’s book fateful triangles as well, which is on google books. Find it yourself, i’ve been looking up a number of things. And as to 50% more, that’s accurate, and relevant because it demonstrates that, contrary to your postulation, Israel is not controlling arms sales to Saudi Arabia, at least it is not a significant challenger. If Israel was the power house it is made out to be, it would not permit such things.